Re: lug-bg: kernel 2.4.21 + RH 9 ?

[danchev@email.domain.hidden (George Danchev)]

On 16 06 2003 11:08, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski wrote:
<em class="quotelev1">> George Ivanov wrote:
<em class="quotelev2">> > Nqkoj imal li e vereme da probva dali RH 9 shre varvi s tova qdro ?
<em class="quotelev2">> > Opitval sum s drugi qdra no ne mi trugvat prilojeniqta . Kazva :
<em class="quotelev2">> > "Your kernel is too old to support treads " ili neshto ot sorta,  kogato
<em class="quotelev2">> > se opitam da startiram primerno KDE.
<em class="quotelev1">>
<em class="quotelev1">> RedHat vav svoia infinite wisdom, polzvat backport ot 2.5 na NPTL i
<em class="quotelev1">> FUTEX-es. Koeto za vsichki potrebiteli na RedHat 9+ shte reche che poveche
<em class="quotelev1">> niama da mogat da izpolzvat vanilla 2.4 kernelite ot kernel.org Koeto e
<em class="quotelev1">> oshte po veseloto, zaradi tazi umnotia v 2.5 veche ima sys_futex_old,
<em class="quotelev1">> nishto che niama releasnat oficialen kernel s sys_futex....abe veselba.
<em class="quotelev1">> Hubavo e da se vkarvat features, ama RedHat malko prekaliavat poniakoga.

Vsystnost, ne mozhem da vinim RH za tova, to si e developemnt i napulno v 
sinhron s GPL. Imat klienti i prosto si gledat biznesa kato im zadovolqvat 
zhelaniqta. Ne mogat da 4akat vanilla 2.6 pyk i ne narushavat GPL pod nikakva 
forma. Qsno e 4e NPTL support v kernel i glibc + fast user space mutexes 
davat performance boost za posix threaded apps koito znaqt kak da se 
vyzpolzvat ot tova. Ima ne malko apps, za koito se tvyrdi 4e sa posix thread 
compliant, no vsystnost ne sa ... Imenno na RH ste izpluvat tezi problemi s 
tezi apps i ste se report-vat za fixes. 
Primer ot tezhkiq klas e Oracle, prosto iskat kernel s edi kvi si 
special scalable features... e stom gi nqma v vanilla, vse ste se nameri 
nqkoj comm. vendor da gi implement i release dokato vlqzat v vanilla. Ne e 
slu4aen i fakta 4e Oracle revat na visok glas 4e stavat Linux company ... 
prosto polu4avat platforma s perspectives... ne mogat da 4akat...

maj e doshlo vreme Linux kernel developent/monitoring/maintanance da mine pod 
egidata na nqkyf linux kernel technical commettee v koito da u4astvat 
peer-2-peer vsi4ki zainteresovani commercial vendors + nezavisimi volunteer 
organizations/persons, kakto GCC mina predi vreme pod nabludenieto na podoben 
commettee ili kakto e x.org - various members. Prosto slozhnostta na kernela 
narastva neimoverno mnogo i s fast pace. Dosholo e vreme Linux da poeme i 
naistina critical tasks... mne mne internet or desktop services, a za takiva 
prilozheniq naprimer: 
* http://www.eurocontrol.int/sass/unix/UNIX_answersTOC.doc.html, 
ponezhe mnogo skoro old nice commercial unix kernels ste izostanat dosta v 
technologi4no otnoshenie vkl. i na sobstvenite si hardware architectures ... i 
nikoj ne moa da gi 4aka ... Ostava da po4nat da se pishat i special
comm. user space apps za linux za podobni critical tasks. Vyobste modela 
stava mnogo mnogo slozhen... nqkyf mix mezhdu bazaar i cathedraal ... kato 
cathedrals (HP, Intel, IBM, SGI, others) u4astvat vse po-bazaarno ... 

* nisto 4udno skoro vreme na site-a na eurocontrol da se poqvqt i docs za 
linux usage ... mdam ... 

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